A radical looking kettle beginning with a "3" - and I don't mean a "Coffee Pot"

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A radical looking kettle beginning with a "3" - and I don't mean a "Coffee Pot"

Post by 34070 Manston on Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:14 am

The Railway Magazine, page 41, has a nice colour photo of 36001 Smile

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Post by 35005CP on Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:40 am

Do you have a shot that you can post for us all to see please?

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Post by 34070 Manston on Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:49 pm

Sorry Admin,

I do not have the wherewithal to do that. Sad

I daresay one of our other members does have the ways and means.

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Post by 35005CP on Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:47 am

If you follow this link, there are step-by-step instructions on how to post pictures. http://nineelms.freeforum.me.uk/forum-information-f30/posting-pictures-in-threads-t107.htm?sid=afc0f3c44759b8cf69ccfd088a9181ff

Any problems, please let me know.

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Post by 34070 Manston on Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:08 pm

Good morning Admin.

My internet access is work based and I do not have access to scanners and such like, but I apprecate the link you sent me.

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Post by 35005CP on Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:47 pm

Found some information on 36001 Leader here:... http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bulleidlocos.org.uk/images/bulleid/misc/36001_stn_w4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bulleidlocos.org.uk/_ldr/ldrClass.aspx&usg=__3IRlYzKcU7YNKJuoBkdUwf3Gc30=&h=255&w=408&sz=99&hl=en&start=44&um=1&tbnid=niHnoc0ENoCDBM:&tbnh=78&tbnw=125&prev=/images%3Fq%3D36001%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26cr%3DcountryUK%257CcountryGB%26sa%3DN%26start%3D36%26um%3D1

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Post by 34070 Manston on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:22 pm

I'd actually seen that link before - did you read about the fellow who built a working steam model of the Leader?

There is more info and pics on the following:-

http://www.semgonline.com/steam/leader_01.html

The colour pic at the bottom of page 2 is the same pic in The Railway Magazine Wink

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Post by 35005CP on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:35 pm

Slightly going off subject, but tell me if I am wrong. It states at the bottom of Page 2 that H1 Atlantic NÂș2039 was being used as the test bed for Bulleid's sleeve valve design for the Leader project. Is this the same Atlantic that the Bluebell are trying to re-create?

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Post by 34070 Manston on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:37 pm

I believe so, but wouldn't swear to it.

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Post by 35005CP on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:50 pm

Nope - It looks as though I was wrong indeed as it is an H2 Class and not an H1 class. More info can be found here: http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/locos/atlantic/

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Post by 7wheel on Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:46 pm

The Leader was an incredibly brave attempt by Bulleid to prolong steam traction. I don't think it was ever going to work as intended, but had the politics of the day been otherwise, it might have formed the basis of a successful design. I have an idea that Bullied really intended it to be an oil-burner from the outset, especially given the small grate area.

Talking of oil burning, it's worth quoting from "Bulleid Last Giant of Steam":

"21C-136 Westward Ho! was then fitted with a more advanced Laidlaw-Drew 'Swirlyflo' type of burner which came as a revelation. With the fireman able to sit and watch she hauled a van train of 600 tons up the 1 in 250 gradient out of Eastleigh with consummate ease. Later she worked the [ACE] from Waterloo to Exeter, needing only to pick up water at Salisbury, with the same assurance."

On the abrupt cessation of the move to oil-burning, Bulleid rather bitterly complained that if the (road) competition could use oil fuels, then why not the railways? I think this was one of the key factors that, had it been allowed to continue, would have extended the life of steam traction.

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