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Post by 35005CP on Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:29 am

Hi all,

Can someone tell me how many Bulleid Coaches are operating on the MHR and Bluebell especially and awaiting overhaul to date?

Elsewhere would be great too!

Thanks in advance

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Re: Bulleid Coaches in Preservation

Post by 35012 on Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:25 pm

Currently the Bluebell have 9 Bulleid coaches as follows:
TO (Third Open)
1456 - Unrestored.
1464 - Operational.
1481 - Requires overhaul after long period in traffic.
1482 - Operational.
SOBT (Semi Open Brake Third).
2515 - Operational.
2516 - Operational.
4227 - Unrestored semi coupe.
4279 - Operational.
CK (Compartment Composite).
5768 - Under overhaul (owned by Bulleid Society).

Details on coaches at MHR and Swanage to follow.

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Post by 35012 on Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:19 am

In addition to the coaches already mentioned at the Bluebell they have previously broken up No's 4008, 4035 and 4036 retaining substantial quantities of parts / spares and the complete underframe from 4036.

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Re: Bulleid Coaches in Preservation

Post by 35012 on Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:25 am

An interloper onto the Midland region can be found at The Vintage Carriage Trust (Ingrow) on The Keighley & Worth Valley Railway. Bulleid TO 1469 is coming to the end of a very extensive restoration. Lets hope that it is not too long before we can see it running behind City of Wells!

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Re: Bulleid Coaches in Preservation

Post by 35005CP on Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:03 am

34092 is no where nr completion as I understand it??

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Re: Bulleid Coaches in Preservation

Post by 35012 on Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:55 am

She is more advanced than most people think but still a way off. The new tender tank is finnished complete with the high sided vallances and has been fitted on the frames, work progresses apace on the loco itself. I will see if I can find the pictures of the loco someone posted online a few weeks back when the front end was briefly towed out of the shed.

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Re: Bulleid Coaches in Preservation

Post by 35005CP on Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:03 am

Be great to see. Unfortunately the KWVR doesn't seem to give any news on the locos overhaul. But going back to Bulleid stock, how many do the KWVR own and where are other Bulleid stock around the country?

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Post by 35005CP on Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:08 am

Just found this about half way down the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keighley_and_Worth_Valley_Railway

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Post by 35012 on Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:30 am

35005CP wrote:Be great to see. Unfortunately the KWVR doesn't seem to give any news on the locos overhaul. But going back to Bulleid stock, how many do the KWVR own and where are other Bulleid stock around the country?

The VCT at the KWVR have only the one Bulleid Coach along with a Southern Railway "Matchboard" Corrridor Brake Third No 3554.

Re Their Bulleid No 1469 you can find pictures of it under restoration here: http://www.vintagecarriagestrust.org/Bulleid.htm

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Re: Bulleid Coaches in Preservation

Post by 35005CP on Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:35 am

Thanks for that - How about Bulleid stock around the rest of the Preserved lines?

Also, I am going to move this thread to the Passenger and Freight section.

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Re: Bulleid Coaches in Preservation

Post by 35012 on Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:20 am

It was initially thought that the Bluebell had swapped another Bulleid SOBT for 4227 but in fact the vehicle concerned was a standard Full Brake (non Bulleid).


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Re: Bulleid Coaches in Preservation

Post by 35012 on Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:37 am

Swanage have the following Bulleids:
TO - 1457 In very poor condition.
SOBT - 4365 Under repair.
SOBT - 4366 In very poor condition.
CK - 5761 (sold by MHR to Swanage). Awaiting overhaul.

The Mid Hants have the following Bulleids:
SOBT - 4367
BTK - 4211
2850 - Scrapped with parts salvaged for Swanage

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Re: Bulleid Coaches in Preservation

Post by 35005CP on Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:48 am

I am pretty sure the MHR have 4 or even 5 from memory - If you look down what they call the Headshunt at Alresford?

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Post by 35012 on Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:49 am

35005CP wrote:I am pretty sure the MHR have 4 or even 5 from memory - If you look down what they call the Headshunt at Alresford?

Not anymore. They originally had 4 in the shape of 4211, 4367, 2850 and 5761.
2850 was scrapped with components going to Swanage.
5761 was sold to Swanage and currently awaits overhaul there at the moment.

The only other vintage passenger carrying vehicles that I am aware of at the MHR are:
1353 LSWR Ironclad Brake 3rd.
4151 (7851) SR Restaurant 3rd built to LSWR diagram.

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Re: Bulleid Coaches in Preservation

Post by 35005CP on Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:23 am

I've just checked and only 2 are showing - Up to 2/3 years back they had some others. It appears as though 4211 & 4367 still exist.

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Post by 35012 on Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:48 am

35005CP wrote:I've just checked and only 2 are showing - Up to 2/3 years back they had some others. It appears as though 4211 & 4367 still exist.

4211 has been restored with some modifications to allow wheelchair access.
4367 is undergoing a very long and extensive restoration including the replacement of one entire end.

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Re: Bulleid Coaches in Preservation

Post by 35005CP on Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:31 am

This states that 4211 is Operational and 4367 is under Repair (Pretty sure Duncan sorted this end at Ropley?) http://www.watercressline.co.uk/The-Works/Rolling-Stock
I remember both if not a couple of other Bulleid stock on workings that I have done as 3rd man when I started at the MHR??

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Re: Bulleid Coaches in Preservation

Post by 35005CP on Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:47 am

Latest news is that the KWVR have recently rebuilt/overhauled a Bulleid Coach. This has not been painted into Southern green, but in Blood and Custard livery. This is ready to work with 34092 once overhauled.

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Re: Bulleid Coaches in Preservation

Post by 35005CP on Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:51 am

Hi all,

Incase no one has heard the latest news. Bulleid Coach Open Third no 1456 is leaving the Bluebell Railway to go to the MHR on a 25 year loan for restoration and Operation on the line! This is fantastic news for increasing the Bulleid fleet on the line!
The problem I see is that the NRM transferred ownership of the coach to the Bluebell after a re-appraisal of their collection. But from what I can tell this was in order to get the coach in fully restored working order?
The amount of work that is required is as follows. The major work that would have to be done is the replacement of all the external steel sheeting and window frames, and the building of the missing seating units.
It is said the coach isn't in too bad condition and is subtantially complete? But I have to ask if this is after the update in 1980? A photo of the coach is shown below.
If anyone else has a recent shot, I'd be pleased to see.


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Re: Bulleid Coaches in Preservation

Post by 35005CP on Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:59 am

Any news on the progress/Restoration?

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